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Finally: For Africa Gold Sellers

FINALLY: AFRICA GOLD SELLERS 

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This should be very good news for any Gold Seller from Africa

 

We are no able to take gold dory bars deliveries from Africa into Switzerland.

Switzerland is the safest country to do gold business in the world.

 

The buyer offers you:

Bank account for the seller and owner of the dory bars with one of the best of the banks in the world

Bank account filled with money before delivery

Delivery to either Metalor or PAMP refineries in Switzerland

All costs paid for from Zurich Trade Free Zone until final assay for the gold dory bars

Bank to bank verification process of funds and capability to deliver

Assistance in country of origin to secure correct documentation

 

Contact:

Use the contact form and headline with SWISS REFINING.

Real Seller of Gold?

Real Seller of Gold?

 

When you have got an FCO from the seller the major question is: Is this a real seller or not?

Even after all the scammers and fraudsters I have written about in this blog you have to realize that there are always real sellers of gold.

You can sometimes differentiate fake sellers from real sellers on the FCO. Mostly you can not do it. This is the major problem. Real sellers can ask for tickets, advance payments like payment for export documents, export taxes, freight, insurances and Proof of Funds.

In other words it is really difficult to differentiate between real and fake sellers. Just beware there are scammers out there.

 

So I can pay sellers through my personal representatives in the countries in question. I have a verification process that I control by persons, personal representatives, in the same countries as the sellers.

 

So Real Sellers of Gold are most welcome.

Gold delivered by diplomats

Gold delivered by diplomats

 

The Geneva convention allows diplomats to travel with their own personal belongings unchecked at the customs. Gold brought by diplomats are very rarely personal belongings. Basically you must assume that gold in the possession of a diplomat is illegal.

Another advantage of having a diplomatic status is the penalty imposed on you. A normal reaction from the country in question is to declare the person as person ‘Non Grata’ followed by a few hours to leave the country.

For my Italian buying bank I was approached from Sierra Leone of gold in Italy. Eventually it was established that the gold should be in Torino, not custom cleared.

From the shipping documents it showed that the gold had been on its way for one month. The export documents also showed a buyer in Switzerland and the gold was to be sent in transit via Torino to the buyer in Switzerland.

 

Then the diplomat had fully understood  the buyer was a bank. A bank that could arrange the customs necessary custom clearance if the diplomat just could produce the correct documents. The bank can also only pay gold after refining and assay at an approved refinery.

The seller preferred to have 2 kilo of the 40 kilo brought to a refinery for verification. This is a procedure not acceptable in any way. At this time we had signed a SPA with the seller in the country of origin accepting the bank’s procedures.

 

The seller’s representatives including the diplomat was never more to be heard of.

Scam or not only the seller’s representatives can know. The likelyhood is as close to 100% you can get.

 

If you have gold and real documents and want to sell to a bank, then you are welcome.

Just remember payment only after refining at buyer’s refinery in Italy.

 

Buying a ticket for seller?

Buying a ticket for a seller?

 

If yu know the seller then you have nothing to be scared of. On the otherhand sending money for somebody you hope will supply the goods you want or that you want to meet you should take a deep breath.

 

As all of us knows bookings and tickets can be changed. You can know the travel agency very well as well as cooperating with it. They may even compensate you with free tickets occasionally. Tickets can be refunded and the money repaid. Money does not have to be used for the tickets. In short you can very well be out for an attempt to get hold of your money.

If you are into charity then you should regard it as charity and see that as a worst case scenario. if you are going to be cheated then this one of them that will cost you very little.

 

To the facts, it is quite normal that the seller wants to send somebody to oversee the shipment as well as being present during the refining process. If the seller wants the ticket it is normal. If you want to be safe you should always have a person in the same country as the seller that you trust.

 

This trusted person is the one that should have your money. He is then the person to buy the required ticket at the seller’s travel agent. He will then get a paper ticket as well as a reciept on the purchase. Rest assured that the travel agent will inform the seller about the purchase.

 

When the shipment is then to go your trusted person will assure that either the goods is transferred to the airline’s export box or that the seller has brought the gold as hand carry.

Then the flight ticket is handed over. You will know the flight and its arrival to the destination.

You will be able to assist at the customs clearance as you will take over from then.

 

Please do not forget that the seller is your guest and take duly care and be a good host. Be happy that you have found a seller that can keep his word.

Words of a scammer

Words of a scammer

 

This scammer claims to be a Cameroonian. Cameroon is as you know Francophil.

 

Would you being fluent in French send following message

 

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You a fool.. a mother fucker… idiot… foolish greedy white man who
wants to steal my gold…

Unquote

 

These are the words of Sally Enanga.

So would you like to be insulted or scammed I can give you his/her mail address.

Honest Fraudster or Common Scammer?

Honest Fraudster or Common Scammer?

 

Can there be an Honest Scammer and a Common Scammer. The Honest Scammer I encountered sold gold said to be in Cameroon. The offer was with pictures of the gold, the trading license and you just name it.

As the reader of this blog knows we are very good at challenging the Camreoonian fraudsters. We arrange to buy the Cameroonian gold direct via our own contact having all the licenses, When this seller realized how he would be checked he reverted with the following statement. Quote Sorry all the documents forwarded previously were fakes. Unquote

Very honest and for once true. The documents were all fakes. Next statement were on the other hand not very clever. Quote Your buyer is a fake Unquote. How could he tell. I do not know as we had not given him any details on the buyer.

 

The “Common scammer” on the other hand started with some very interesting plausible statements. The gold was owned by a representative of the Saudi Royal family. The proposed deal was based on the fact that the gold was kept in safety by a named Italian bank. The deal also supposed the gold to be exported out of Italy. Thus some banking instruments were needed as well as some security from the buyer had to be given to the seller /seller´s mandate.

As it happens we are direct to another Italian bank able to do any purchase in Italy. We know also that the Italian bank is able to buy and resell the gold on the pricing offered without any issue. Actually the bank keeping the gold would also be in the position to trade the gold. Thus the offer to buy the gold was turned down because Quote The seller does not want to sell to anyone in Italy Unquote.

As anyone would understand there can not be anything wrong with an Italian buyer for gold in Italy. Even better that it was a bank. Anyhow, I choose to challange the supposed mandate and told him that the answer showed beyond any reasonable doubt that this was a scam.

I was the asked to proof him wring and if not Fly a kite. As we know it is the seller that has to proof that his/her statements are correct. Just the wording “Fly a Kite” places this person among the Common scammers.

Buyer of gold with money?

Buyer of gold with money?

 

Are you a buyer of gold? Do you have the money and the guts to face the fraudsters and scammers? Good, then you also know your own calculation. You know how much you can pay and how much gold you can buy.

Next issue to take into consideration, Are you a racist? Yes, probly. It is difficult not to have an opinion on another persons culture and the cultural differences. However, do not let the perceptions lead you astray. It was a long time ago that you believed in Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause and Angels. Why should they all be there in front of you just when you are to close a gold deal.

You may have a spirit assisting you. However, it is much better to have COMMON SENSE.

The question, WHY. Do not forget that.

 

In a world of scammers sometimes it is good to have someone able to guide you in the business.

That is the position I am in. I advise both buyers and sellers to find common ground to agree and close a deal. This is the position that Swedish real estate agents are in. They are supposed to take both sides at the same time and look for the best deal for both parties.

That is also how I do business within gold and diamonds. As I know most of the tricks in the book I can guide both buyer and seller to an agreement.

 

What I can not do is introducing a seller to a buyer that does not know his limits of volume or pricing. If I ask for what price the buyer is willing to accept for gold, then I expect to get an answer.

 

So please before asking for gold from me establish how much and at what terms you can buy. Then I can assist. If you do not know your terms and conditions I will not introduce you to my prooven sellers.

 

Remember, real sellers are few and persons with money are many. And most of all dreamers are just too many, not only scammers and fraudsters.

 

 

Due Diligence a thought

Due Diligence, a thought

 

One of the first checks of a possible seller is to find out if he really real.

In many countries I have representatives that I trust. So they are getting involved would I find an offer worthwhile to investigate further. There could very well be clauses in an FCO that I realize that it would take ages to negotiate them so it will work safe and secure.

 

There are cases when the seller gives you names of previous buyers. You get their contact details. The first thought that should strike you. Could there be something else going on. It is like another of the logical tests where you know from the beginning that there are one or two persons lying and you do not know who.

In this case you do not even know if anyone is or would be lying.

 

I have a perception that most offers are fraudulent. Thus I would consider most persons being liars.

 

So you call the two buyers in Europe. They confirm that the seller is correct and always performing and delivering the gold.

My logic would tell me that as it is very difficult to find sellers with gold and performing that if the seller was of that rare species then would say that he is not a real seller. If you have a seller performing you will not have any problem to sell or refine the gold you are getting. Why should you want somebody else to money out of your own pockets. The only reason is that the pockets are empty. You need the money the seller would give you when he has scammed the buyer.

 

That would be mu second thought. What would you think?

 

Carl a scammer by choice

Carl, a scammer by choice.

 

Imagine you are being scammed of 50000 USD. That was what Carl was. He lost 50000 USD to clever scammers in an African country. Carl is a clever man. He speaks perfect Queens English. He has also a female friend with African origin and best of all a diplomatic passport.

 

Being in the gold business and knowing some of the tricks he made a proposal to his scammers. Carl got his money back by selling himself to the devil. He promised to get other buyers to come and buy from the scammers.

 

The set up was easily done. Carl stated that he was in contact with the supposedly owner of the gold, the female holder of a diplomatic passport. He let an American lady market the non existing gold.

Now I was introduced to the deal by one of my contacts that had got a very good impression of the American lady and all her offers.

 

The idea was that the gold was in safekeeping in a neighboring country. The buyer was supposed to come to the seller’s place of living and from there go to the gold and where it was under safekeeping. There the a sample of the gold was to be assayed at a government controlled refinery. Based on this refinery report the whole lot of gold was to be paid. The laboratory is just a laboratory and has very limited capacity.

The initial meetings has taken place and the details of the purchase was being negotiated.

Being in general positiv to verifiable gold we only demanded the whole lot of gold some 100 kilos was to be smelted and assayed at a refinery in the neighboring country.

As there was not gold the deal got stuck there.

Especially as we had already through our contacts had information that only 73 kilos of gold was available for sale in that country.

 

To avoid skillful scammers like Carl you have to have an on hand local knowledge.

That noone of the persons were willing to send their passports is also a very good sign but not essential. He may not even be a Carl in his passport. Nobody knows for sure. The diplomat is localized but we have no interest to frame her. Our interest is purely to buy gold in a safe and secure way.

Henry Morgan, a pirate

Henry Morgan, a pirate

 

Henry Morgan was one of the most famous pirates in the Caribbien in the 17th century. With a fleet of up to 37 ships and 2000 men he sacked towns and fortesses and stole their riches.

 

Another person with the same family name just offered me gold on monthly basis. The volumes between 1kg and 10000 MT monthly.

 

I do not want to go into details. I believe he is in the same business as Henry Morgan but he has adopted to the new technology, Internet.

 

Good luck out there and beware of pirates like Morgan.

SKR – Safe Keeping Receipt

SKR – Safe Keeping Receipt

 

I just got an SKR on gold deposited in a bank. The SKR was supposed to show that a company had deposited some kilos of gold in a safe locker.

 

Now what does it really say when the bank issuing the SKR states the following

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The information is furnished to you in strict confidence, without any responsability or guarantee for your private use only and under the express condition that neither this Bank nor any of its officers shall be held in any way responsible for furnishing the information.

 

Unquote

 

It says that someone known to them has rented a safe locker and paid the fees for issueing the SKR. It does not guarantee anything more than that.

Gold as collateral?

Gold as collateral!

 

Using gold as collateral sounds like a perfect idea. You pay for the export costs, corresponding taxes and else that the seller demand you to pay and get gold instead as collateral.

What you have done in the worst case is to have bought the collateral. The money that you paid you do not have any real control over as the payments if done is not in your name.

Anyhow, you have the gold, or? What document will show anyone that you got the gold in a legal transaction. You did not buy it or? How will you export it? Can you show that you are the owner?

 

Most probably the seller demanded to have some kind of control over the collateral. It has been most probably depositet in a safe of a lawyer or a bank. Do you have full control that it is gold in the collateral and will it be gold when you open the safe or when the bank hands it out.

 

Would you had heard of corrupt lawyers and bank officers or bribes and criminal employees the use of gold as collateral is not a good idea. The bank or lawyer will claim that you are the fraudster and you have to prove their wrongdoings.

Avoid the impossible and think of another method to close the deal.

Cameroon, fraudster?

Cameroon, fraudster?

 

Are you active in Cameroon as fraudster, scammer or similar? Beware the government is now hunting you through persons like me.

We report direct to the responsible persons in the government of Cameroon each attempt to fraud or scam the potential buyer. You do not even have to have succeeded in your attempts. Your jailterm will be substantial.

What is on stake for the government to clean up its tarnished name. The tarnish you have put on Cameroon. Would I have been the legislator it would have been equal to treason.

 

For you that notice any type of fraudulent attempt contact me on the form and subject it “Fraud in Cameroon”. I will then forward it to the authorities so legal actions can be taken.

Bad Language

Bad Language

 

Are you looking to learn a new vocabulary?

Read my other blog comments and answer the offers you recieve with the knowledge you have got here. There is just a warning on the cursings you will recieve from the man with his pants down.

Neithe rof us has any interest to forward the manifests or offers to anybody outside the police force.

 

This just happen yesterday!

These answers was not sent to me but my buyer on rough diamonds. The first alert was on the pricing on the rough diamonds. There were supposedly three rough diamonds of 69 carats each. Pricing was 250 USD/carat.

So if you are looking for a good price on rough diamonds there you have the offer. The conditions for the deal were simple, inviation to Europe and paid ticket. When in Europe naturally paid hotel costs.

 

Now the words of the questioned seller in question.

 

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thank You bastard. seat your fucking ass there and ask me to send My goods to Ghana Big mother fucker scammer.
 
ass You can buy localy why don’t You come in Guinea before You to ask me to go in Ghana with My goods???

I have allready allert The Interpol this mornnig if You use My documents to SCAM people You will eat The ass of your mother with your hands Big mother fucker bastard scammer.
 
Go to hell

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Followed by this poem after my buyer had answered him with

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Sir, I have never seen such a diplomatic, polite, business-like mail.
I am very pleased to learn that you contacted Interpol. In this case
we do not have to do it. We shall forward your offers and mail to
our Corporate Attorney who has his Chambers in Conakry as well 
as to our bank in Conakry who will be interested in your conduct.
 
Just for your information, we shall also be in Conakry and we know
Guninea very well. THANK YOU FOR DISQUALIFYING YOURSELF AS
A GENUINE, RELIABLE SUPPLIER.

Unquote

The poem

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When You will be here in Conakry don’t hesit to let me know and call me to give me your address. I will make You fuck your mother i swear. You will sée 

Please inform me and give me your address when you are here Big mother fucker scammer. I will tell you If you use My FCO ans manifest to SCAM people You will know me. If like this You use to do, purching seller to issu documents in your name to let You say You have genuine seller to SCAM people all over The wold You mother fucker wite people.

Bastard….

Unquote