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Gold delivered by diplomats

Gold delivered by diplomats

 

The Geneva convention allows diplomats to travel with their own personal belongings unchecked at the customs. Gold brought by diplomats are very rarely personal belongings. Basically you must assume that gold in the possession of a diplomat is illegal.

Another advantage of having a diplomatic status is the penalty imposed on you. A normal reaction from the country in question is to declare the person as person ‘Non Grata’ followed by a few hours to leave the country.

For my Italian buying bank I was approached from Sierra Leone of gold in Italy. Eventually it was established that the gold should be in Torino, not custom cleared.

From the shipping documents it showed that the gold had been on its way for one month. The export documents also showed a buyer in Switzerland and the gold was to be sent in transit via Torino to the buyer in Switzerland.

 

Then the diplomat had fully understood  the buyer was a bank. A bank that could arrange the customs necessary custom clearance if the diplomat just could produce the correct documents. The bank can also only pay gold after refining and assay at an approved refinery.

The seller preferred to have 2 kilo of the 40 kilo brought to a refinery for verification. This is a procedure not acceptable in any way. At this time we had signed a SPA with the seller in the country of origin accepting the bank’s procedures.

 

The seller’s representatives including the diplomat was never more to be heard of.

Scam or not only the seller’s representatives can know. The likelyhood is as close to 100% you can get.

 

If you have gold and real documents and want to sell to a bank, then you are welcome.

Just remember payment only after refining at buyer’s refinery in Italy.

 

Honest Fraudster or Common Scammer?

Honest Fraudster or Common Scammer?

 

Can there be an Honest Scammer and a Common Scammer. The Honest Scammer I encountered sold gold said to be in Cameroon. The offer was with pictures of the gold, the trading license and you just name it.

As the reader of this blog knows we are very good at challenging the Camreoonian fraudsters. We arrange to buy the Cameroonian gold direct via our own contact having all the licenses, When this seller realized how he would be checked he reverted with the following statement. Quote Sorry all the documents forwarded previously were fakes. Unquote

Very honest and for once true. The documents were all fakes. Next statement were on the other hand not very clever. Quote Your buyer is a fake Unquote. How could he tell. I do not know as we had not given him any details on the buyer.

 

The “Common scammer” on the other hand started with some very interesting plausible statements. The gold was owned by a representative of the Saudi Royal family. The proposed deal was based on the fact that the gold was kept in safety by a named Italian bank. The deal also supposed the gold to be exported out of Italy. Thus some banking instruments were needed as well as some security from the buyer had to be given to the seller /seller´s mandate.

As it happens we are direct to another Italian bank able to do any purchase in Italy. We know also that the Italian bank is able to buy and resell the gold on the pricing offered without any issue. Actually the bank keeping the gold would also be in the position to trade the gold. Thus the offer to buy the gold was turned down because Quote The seller does not want to sell to anyone in Italy Unquote.

As anyone would understand there can not be anything wrong with an Italian buyer for gold in Italy. Even better that it was a bank. Anyhow, I choose to challange the supposed mandate and told him that the answer showed beyond any reasonable doubt that this was a scam.

I was the asked to proof him wring and if not Fly a kite. As we know it is the seller that has to proof that his/her statements are correct. Just the wording “Fly a Kite” places this person among the Common scammers.